Comments on: Cathedrals and Bazaars http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/ Now with improved Wordpress goodness! Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:39:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Be a Good Daughter http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-87095 Be a Good Daughter Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:49:39 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-87095 Hi this comment is delightful. I like your site.. bye Hi this comment is delightful.
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]]> By: Be a Good Daughter http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-84487 Be a Good Daughter Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:09:11 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-84487 Cool article. I hope you'll link to my diary.. Ciao Cool article.
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]]> By: Bruce http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-56487 Bruce Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:09:38 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-56487 @Ed: good question. I don't know if there are any restrictions tied to their grant money, but it would be good for the long-term viabiility of the project to have outside committers. Imagine what would happen if for some reason the grant money dried up? @Ed: good question. I don’t know if there are any restrictions tied to their grant money, but it would be good for the long-term viabiility of the project to have outside committers. Imagine what would happen if for some reason the grant money dried up?

]]> By: Ed Summers http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-45166 Ed Summers Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:30:18 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-45166 I'm just curious to know if anyone outside the dev team has "proven themself" enough so that they have commit privs. I’m just curious to know if anyone outside the dev team has “proven themself” enough so that they have commit privs.

]]> By: Wally http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-44495 Wally Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:37:37 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-44495 Well said, Josh. I completely agree with you. I don't have that much experience in Cathedrals but I do know how software gets developed - and it always seems to come back to reliance on those who are willing (and skilled enough) to actually do the work. That's not to say that great ideas don't occur to people who are incapable of joining the project as developers. Happens all the time - user feedback, suggestions, etc. I'd say the Zotero project has been much more open, much earlier than any grant-funded project I'm aware of. I suggest that once the development group has heard the same suggestion over and over it merits consideration - unless, of course, all the suggestions seem to come from the same person :) Well said, Josh. I completely agree with you. I don’t have that much experience in Cathedrals but I do know how software gets developed – and it always seems to come back to reliance on those who are willing (and skilled enough) to actually do the work. That’s not to say that great ideas don’t occur to people who are incapable of joining the project as developers. Happens all the time – user feedback, suggestions, etc. I’d say the Zotero project has been much more open, much earlier than any grant-funded project I’m aware of. I suggest that once the development group has heard the same suggestion over and over it merits consideration – unless, of course, all the suggestions seem to come from the same person :)

]]> By: AI3:::Adaptive Information » Blog Archive » Seeking Grace: A Not-So-Innocent Bystander’s View of Academic Open Source http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43295 AI3:::Adaptive Information » Blog Archive » Seeking Grace: A Not-So-Innocent Bystander’s View of Academic Open Source Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:15:52 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43295 [...] Such promise generates excitement and early evangelists. One of those evangelists, however, frustrated with the pace and degree of responsiveness from the program, went public with a call to better embrace Raymond’s “bazaar” aspects of open source (see this reference and its comments). That, in turn, with its comments, spurred another response from one of the Zotero team leaders speaking unofficially called Cathedrals and Bazaars, also in reference to Raymond’s treatise. [...] […] Such promise generates excitement and early evangelists. One of those evangelists, however, frustrated with the pace and degree of responsiveness from the program, went public with a call to better embrace Raymond’s “bazaar” aspects of open source (see this reference and its comments). That, in turn, with its comments, spurred another response from one of the Zotero team leaders speaking unofficially called Cathedrals and Bazaars, also in reference to Raymond’s treatise. […]

]]> By: Warren http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43104 Warren Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:59:26 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43104 Tricky wordpress... That "absolutely" shouldn't be crossed-out, and my *heart* should have asterisks around it. Have I even used an Internet before?? Tricky wordpress… That “absolutely” shouldn’t be crossed-out, and my heart should have asterisks around it. Have I even used an Internet before??

]]> By: Warren http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43103 Warren Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:57:53 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43103 Josh, you know I'm about as much a coder as I am a penguin, so I throw in my $.02 at risk of embarrassment. My believe is that you ought to stay in the cathedral for as long as you want. Opened Sauce has its place, but I think that there is too often a dogmatic presupposition by the developer set that it serves the user community to have as many cooks in the kitchen as possible, and at the cost of stability and usability. I'm *absolutely* sure you and your brethren are making wise choices, but the more "community involvement" ebbs towards "representative democracy" the more intolerable the software and the community tends to become. In any case, FWIW, enter the bazaar with eyes wide open. I *heart* Zotero. Josh, you know I’m about as much a coder as I am a penguin, so I throw in my $.02 at risk of embarrassment. My believe is that you ought to stay in the cathedral for as long as you want. Opened Sauce has its place, but I think that there is too often a dogmatic presupposition by the developer set that it serves the user community to have as many cooks in the kitchen as possible, and at the cost of stability and usability. I’m absolutely sure you and your brethren are making wise choices, but the more “community involvement” ebbs towards “representative democracy” the more intolerable the software and the community tends to become.

In any case, FWIW, enter the bazaar with eyes wide open. I heart Zotero.

]]> By: noksagt http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43088 noksagt Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:43:14 +0000 http://www.epistemographer.com/2007/01/30/cathedrals-and-bazaars/#comment-43088 Re. the word plugin in svn--Dan mentioned it is in the extension/trunk directroy: https://www.zotero.org/svn/extension/trunk/ Guess I missed it when I was following the current branch. Re. the word plugin in svn—Dan mentioned it is in the extension/trunk directroy:
https://www.zotero.org/svn/extension/trunk/

Guess I missed it when I was following the current branch.

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